Really. Are you serious? Those are nice phones, hardware wise, and outstrip my 5 in most specs, not that this is that important.
Size wise, you can choose with other brands for small,medium or large. Many like small phones, 4" is marginally small, but ideal for many. Many like larger phones. Its personal choice. Smaller is easier to carry and use, larger is better for viewing. They are large phones and small tablets
Very true about the upgrade path, Apple has that in spades, one positive about everything in house.
I agree iOS does everything well and is rock solid. But, there are many features that are basic, that it doesnt have. While I disagree with Samsung making features for the sake of making features (which is what they do), there are a number if small features that make life easy on Android. Backspacing is one, they have a button so you can backspace in many apps and functions. They can app switch easy without having to go out of one, and open it back up. Apples way is cumbersome, and oddly its these thibgs that Apple normally excels in, making base functions quick and easy. Toggles dont exist, but elsewhere they are there. There are many examples on what are generally small things that are time savers, convenient, but in iOS can be cumbersome. I can dig out a list. In many respects, iOS has changed little, although to me, I like the UI as it is. Clean, modern, and all I need is my apps, which is what the iOS UI gives me. I also have no desire for home screen clutter and drivel on it.
iOS was the master of the smartphone UI. Smartphones have evolved, we do more on them, switch between multi apps more often, and the apps are higher functioning. But iOS hasn't added the features to manage these extra options that we see these days, Android has them as base features. Not even features, as they are base functions.
My pet peeve is the CCK and iPad. I can take photos on an iPad or iPhone and I can see them in a PC or Mac as there is file access to the Camera Roll. Makes sense as I might want to copy them to my PC/Mac. If I import on a holiday from my camera to my iPad, I cannot copy them to my PC.. I dont see why, unless I am told that I should only watch my camera photos on my iPad. Dumb. Inconsistent. I can do that missing function with a third party app, but I should not need to do that, and if I was a relative novice, I would not know this. The many that engaged in a long running thread here a few months ago will agree. Rant over!
Now, you may feel that I like Android. No way. Or that I am going off iOS/Apple, no way. But I feel that while I love Apple and what I get for it (my important tickboxes), I am able to look at the other options and see what they do well, and what they don't. Same for Apple. I call that well rounded.
Apple gave us a great OS, but now that smart devices have evolved so much, not a lot has changed. Navigation through apps/browsers has changed little, but Android has changed as the functions have grown. I just do not want to live my life around the home button.
As Kris mentioned, all these missing things can be gotten on a jailbreak. In many ways that answers my question.. Its already done, but elsewhere.
From: Christopher Collins <iphone@analogdigital.com.au>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2013 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] New Mini and iPad--When?
Size wise, you can choose with other brands for small,medium or large. Many like small phones, 4" is marginally small, but ideal for many. Many like larger phones. Its personal choice. Smaller is easier to carry and use, larger is better for viewing. They are large phones and small tablets
Very true about the upgrade path, Apple has that in spades, one positive about everything in house.
I agree iOS does everything well and is rock solid. But, there are many features that are basic, that it doesnt have. While I disagree with Samsung making features for the sake of making features (which is what they do), there are a number if small features that make life easy on Android. Backspacing is one, they have a button so you can backspace in many apps and functions. They can app switch easy without having to go out of one, and open it back up. Apples way is cumbersome, and oddly its these thibgs that Apple normally excels in, making base functions quick and easy. Toggles dont exist, but elsewhere they are there. There are many examples on what are generally small things that are time savers, convenient, but in iOS can be cumbersome. I can dig out a list. In many respects, iOS has changed little, although to me, I like the UI as it is. Clean, modern, and all I need is my apps, which is what the iOS UI gives me. I also have no desire for home screen clutter and drivel on it.
iOS was the master of the smartphone UI. Smartphones have evolved, we do more on them, switch between multi apps more often, and the apps are higher functioning. But iOS hasn't added the features to manage these extra options that we see these days, Android has them as base features. Not even features, as they are base functions.
My pet peeve is the CCK and iPad. I can take photos on an iPad or iPhone and I can see them in a PC or Mac as there is file access to the Camera Roll. Makes sense as I might want to copy them to my PC/Mac. If I import on a holiday from my camera to my iPad, I cannot copy them to my PC.. I dont see why, unless I am told that I should only watch my camera photos on my iPad. Dumb. Inconsistent. I can do that missing function with a third party app, but I should not need to do that, and if I was a relative novice, I would not know this. The many that engaged in a long running thread here a few months ago will agree. Rant over!
Now, you may feel that I like Android. No way. Or that I am going off iOS/Apple, no way. But I feel that while I love Apple and what I get for it (my important tickboxes), I am able to look at the other options and see what they do well, and what they don't. Same for Apple. I call that well rounded.
Apple gave us a great OS, but now that smart devices have evolved so much, not a lot has changed. Navigation through apps/browsers has changed little, but Android has changed as the functions have grown. I just do not want to live my life around the home button.
As Kris mentioned, all these missing things can be gotten on a jailbreak. In many ways that answers my question.. Its already done, but elsewhere.
From: Christopher Collins <iphone@analogdigital.com.au>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2013 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] New Mini and iPad--When?
They are cheap crud. They aren't sure if they want to be phones or small tablets.
And they all use different operating systems with NO guarantee of an upgrade path.
iOS is hardly low featured. It does everything very well & I have always found it to be rock solid.
I don't want extra fancy pictures and drivel on a 5" screen. I want a smartphone that works reliably all the time.
cjc
On 04/04/2013, at 4:47 PM, Tony <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
HmmmThe galaxy, OneX and Lumias are quite good phones they aren't cheap crud.
Sent from my iPhone 5 Buyers are cool with cheap crud. Therefore it's another race to the bottom where no profit margins or innovations exist. Like with desktops. And another industry I'm involved in. People want cheap and are willing to sacrifice quality for close enough. Ill be totally happy when apple is again a niche, quality, product instead of the market leader.~KLM\\01001100 01001111 01001100//Im happy with iOS, I can make the JB choice, yes. My comments were more for the buying public, they now have many more choices, and if Apple keeps iOS low featured, or more to the point, getting further behind what are base features that others have, buyers will talk with their wallet.
From: Kris Murray <krismurray@gmail.com>
To: "iPad@yahoogroups.com" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2013 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] New Mini and iPad--When?
I'm not buying until a 6 hits anyway. We'll see. There does need to be more choices and they're will be. We've got droid. Metro. Blackberry. Soon Ubuntu and Firefox too. Possibly Facebook. How many more choices do you want? Jailbreak your phone and go nuts. Or root your droid and go nuts. No one is stopping you.
Sent from my iPadHmmm be interesting. Its true that all manufacturers are now criticised for only incremental hardware changes, thats fair enough cos there is not much else they can add
By innovation, sorry I meant iOS being updated to be given the many featues that are locked out and easing back on silly restrictions. I see that as innovative for Apple, but I imagine others want a facelift for iOS as well. I don't, I like the clean look but be innovative to add theming or multiple lock screens. They need to do something, as while I like the UI, its very old, Android and Windows offer much cooler interfaces for the many that like an interactive UI. I say give a choice, and lets get away from the common comment that Apple decides what we want..
Oh, and it looks like there goes my 4.8 screen if SJ designed the 5S and possibly 6, dang!
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