Re: [iPad] Why Apple Music Missed a Beat

 

The problem with profits in the car industry, is not because the occasional plant is unsuccessful.

From: "Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
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There is moo lay in every industry.
If a plant in a country fails to generate profits, whole industry can not be blamed.

Before Apple started making money with iPhone, there were companies like Nokia, Blackberry etc. who were making good money. There were companies like Qualcomm, Panasonic, Alcatel, Sony, LG who entered the business of mobile handsets and left after they failed to get returns they wanted or expected.

Best
PKS

> On 01 Oct 2015, at 01:34, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> You answered your own question
> "Apple has more money than all automakers combined."
> There is no moolah in cars. Ford has shut down in Australia. GM is shutting=
> down in Australia. Why get into an industry that you have no experience in=
> when that industry makes no money? If they make anything with cars it will=
> be the brain.=20
>
>
>
> From: "Kris Murray


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The differences are "where establish players were making all the money" but in the car industry, profits are tough. Plants shut down as there is no money in it. I will bet that Apple never make cars, as they are not stupid and they want to make money. They will make a box, an ATV size box, that drives sensor technology on the car. This tech will intially manage collision detection, and any other useful data. A self drive car is very easy to do, the tech to manage that is old hat. Aircraft have had that tech for decades. The issue is not self drive, its how failsafe it can be. And what to do when it fails. Thats the problem in my opinion.

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So Apple took an industry where establish players were making all the money and turned it into an industry where those players still make products but Apple controls mother majority of the profits. The same thing that it hopes to do with the automobile industry

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //

On Sep 30, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Before Apple started making money with iPhone, there were companies like Nokia, Blackberry etc. who were making good money. There were companies like Qualcomm, Panasonic, Alcatel, Sony, LG who entered the business of mobile handsets and left after they failed to get returns they wanted or expected.


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So Apple took an industry where establish players were making all the money and turned it into an industry where those players still make products but Apple controls mother majority of the profits. The same thing that it hopes to do with the automobile industry

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //

On Sep 30, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Before Apple started making money with iPhone, there were companies like Nokia, Blackberry etc. who were making good money. There were companies like Qualcomm, Panasonic, Alcatel, Sony, LG who entered the business of mobile handsets and left after they failed to get returns they wanted or expected.

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Re: [iPad] Why Apple Music Missed a Beat

 

There is moo lay in every industry.
If a plant in a country fails to generate profits, whole industry can not be blamed.

Before Apple started making money with iPhone, there were companies like Nokia, Blackberry etc. who were making good money. There were companies like Qualcomm, Panasonic, Alcatel, Sony, LG who entered the business of mobile handsets and left after they failed to get returns they wanted or expected.

Best
PKS

> On 01 Oct 2015, at 01:34, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> You answered your own question
> "Apple has more money than all automakers combined."
> There is no moolah in cars. Ford has shut down in Australia. GM is shutting=
> down in Australia. Why get into an industry that you have no experience in=
> when that industry makes no money? If they make anything with cars it will=
> be the brain.=20
>
>
>
> From: "Kris Murray

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Re: [iPad] Why Apple Music Missed a Beat

 

One need to remember that self driving cars has become a goal for quite a few corporations.Almost all major US, German, Japanese, Korean etc. automakers are working towards this goal with known or unknown projects. Apart from this, Google ( now Alphabet), who are pioneers and Apple are in this race. As the projects mature and details become public, they will learn from each other and have standards fixed for various interfaces. 
No one can bet as to who will end up as ultimate leader. 

Only thing sure is that whosoever becomes leader, is bound to reap huge financial bounty.

With best wishes,
P. K. Saha

On 30-Sep-2015, at 10:43 PM, Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Automakers take this risk. Apple has more money than all automakers combined. Why can't apple financially take this risk? Thy have everything to gain. What are the stats? 30% of all smartphones are iPhones? Let's say 20%. Imagine if 20% of all cars were Apple cars. That's alotta moolah. I think that applies also thinking further ahead than we are. Remember they're already working on the 2017 iPhone and planning the 2020! This car is a 2019 project. Chill. Let the cards play out. And. Maybe they aren't making cars. Probably  they are making car brains. Certainly all mere mortals can do now is guess. 👻

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //

On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:55 PM, David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 



OK, Kris.  What about the liability?

There's zero liability in an iPhone failure.  Why in heaven's name would they deliberately spend billions in order to gain the very real possibility of losing many more billions to wrongful-death lawsuits?

Insane.



On 9/30/2015 1:00 AM, Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad] wrote:
 
Lol you're missing the point. Cars are more computer than machine. Again. Apple is better at computers than ford. Easily Apple could win this. 

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //

On Sep 29, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
From scratch? Every other car manufacturer has been doing cars for decades. Apple if it started from scratch would be years behind for years. Would you buy a Honda phone built solely from Honda?

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus 


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on what do you base this statement?...apple has unfathomable amounts of capital to research and implement whatever it wants to...it's no stretch at all to expect they could have a car division.


On Sep 29, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] wrote:

Apple cannot start its own car company as it doesnt know anything about cars.


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Re: [iPad] Why Apple Music Missed a Beat

 

You answered your own question

"Apple has more money than all automakers combined."

There is no moolah in cars. Ford has shut down in Australia. GM is shutting down in Australia. Why get into an industry that you have no experience in when that industry makes no money? If they make anything with cars it will be the brain.



From: "Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2015 6:13 AM
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Automakers take this risk. Apple has more money than all automakers combined. Why can't apple financially take this risk? Thy have everything to gain. What are the stats? 30% of all smartphones are iPhones? Let's say 20%. Imagine if 20% of all cars were Apple cars. That's alotta moolah. I think that applies also thinking further ahead than we are. Remember they're already working on the 2017 iPhone and planning the 2020! This car is a 2019 project. Chill. Let the cards play out. And. Maybe they aren't making cars. Probably  they are making car brains. Certainly all mere mortals can do now is guess. 👻

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //



On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:55 PM, David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


OK, Kris.  What about the liability?

There's zero liability in an iPhone failure.  Why in heaven's name would they deliberately spend billions in order to gain the very real possibility of losing many more billions to wrongful-death lawsuits?

Insane.



On 9/30/2015 1:00 AM, Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad] wrote:
 
Lol you're missing the point. Cars are more computer than machine. Again. Apple is better at computers than ford. Easily Apple could win this. 

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //

On Sep 29, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
From scratch? Every other car manufacturer has been doing cars for decades. Apple if it started from scratch would be years behind for years. Would you buy a Honda phone built solely from Honda?

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus 


On 30/09/2015, at 3:08 PM, tim meidroth timmeidroth@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
on what do you base this statement?...apple has unfathomable amounts of capital to research and implement whatever it wants to...it's no stretch at all to expect they could have a car division.

On Sep 29, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Tony tdale@xtra..co.nz [iPad] wrote:

Apple cannot start its own car company as it doesnt know anything about cars.




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Automakers take this risk. Apple has more money than all automakers combined. Why can't apple financially take this risk? Thy have everything to gain. What are the stats? 30% of all smartphones are iPhones? Let's say 20%. Imagine if 20% of all cars were Apple cars. That's alotta moolah. I think that applies also thinking further ahead than we are. Remember they're already working on the 2017 iPhone and planning the 2020! This car is a 2019 project. Chill. Let the cards play out. And. Maybe they aren't making cars. Probably  they are making car brains. Certainly all mere mortals can do now is guess. 👻

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //

On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:55 PM, David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 



OK, Kris.  What about the liability?

There's zero liability in an iPhone failure.  Why in heaven's name would they deliberately spend billions in order to gain the very real possibility of losing many more billions to wrongful-death lawsuits?

Insane.



On 9/30/2015 1:00 AM, Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad] wrote:
 
Lol you're missing the point. Cars are more computer than machine. Again. Apple is better at computers than ford. Easily Apple could win this. 

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //

On Sep 29, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
From scratch? Every other car manufacturer has been doing cars for decades. Apple if it started from scratch would be years behind for years. Would you buy a Honda phone built solely from Honda?

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus 


On 30/09/2015, at 3:08 PM, tim meidroth timmeidroth@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

on what do you base this statement?...apple has unfathomable amounts of capital to research and implement whatever it wants to...it's no stretch at all to expect they could have a car division.


On Sep 29, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] wrote:

Apple cannot start its own car company as it doesnt know anything about cars.


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Inventing is hardly simple. 

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On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:51 PM, David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Television I can see, unlike cars.  Television's entertainment, and entertainment is already largely in the home, on the seventy-inch 4K screen (soon to be a hundred-inch 8K).  Like cell phones, seventy-inch UHD screens are affordable by *lots* of people.  Apple has simply to invent and build one of the few best streamers possible

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Absolutely, where it takes a leap of faith, Jim.  I think I may still have that book.  It's certainly worth re-reading.  But predicting full highway automation is not a leap of faith, it's a gullible willingness to mistake a possibility imagined for a reality actually built.

Clarke was disappointed in the lack of - practically the absence of - progress in space exploration after the initial Cold War push petered out.  It's not enough to start - you have to do the very hard work of following through.  Similarly, you can introduce a few low-lying features of automobile automation, like front-end collision avoidance and computerized braking systems, but from there to fully automating highway travel is a long, hard slog filled with enormous obstacles.  You have to imagine and start, of course, but then you have to have the patience and commitment to stay the course, through much discouragement and hoards of competing priorities.

Certainly, there will be little victories, like the backup and lane-watch sensors that have already made my driving easier and more pleasant, but from there to fully automating all highway travel is like the distance from Cape Canaveral to interstellar travel.



On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

And I believe those highways will be safer than the ones that we currently have. Self driving cars nowhere other self driving cars are without looking or being tired or being distracted. To say the least.
KLM

I have a wonderful deal for you in an historic bridge in Brooklyn, New York, Kris.  Write me privately :o)

Arthur C. Clarke, Profiles of the Future.
An early chapter, entitled "The Failure of Nerve"…

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And I believe those highways will be safer than the ones that we currently have. Self driving cars nowhere other self driving cars are without looking or being tired or being distracted. To say the least.
KLM

I have a wonderful deal for you in an historic bridge in Brooklyn, New York, Kris.  Write me privately :o)

Arthur C. Clarke, Profiles of the Future.
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Respectfully, bad comparison.  Predicting that A will cause B is different from observing that C already does cause D.


On Sep 30, 2015, at 4:13 AM, Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

There were rumours that Railway engines would cause abortion since they created noise, tremors and fast speed.
That was nearly two centuries ago.

Same thinking prevails now too. 
May be 59 years from now they will be

With best wishes,
P. K. Saha

On 30-Sep-2015, at 12:25 PM, David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 



OK, Kris.  What about the liability?

There's zero liability in an iPhone failure.  Why in heaven's name would they deliberately spend billions in order to gain the very real possibility of losing many more billions to wrongful-death lawsuits?

Insane.



On 9/30/2015 1:00 AM, Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad] wrote:
 
Lol you're missing the point. Cars are more computer than machine. Again. Apple is better at computers than ford. Easily Apple could win this. 

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"  ~Nikola Tesla //

On Sep 29, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
From scratch? Every other car manufacturer has been doing cars for decades. Apple if it started from scratch would be years behind for years. Would you buy a Honda phone built solely from Honda?

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus 


On 30/09/2015, at 3:08 PM, tim meidroth timmeidroth@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

on what do you base this statement?...apple has unfathomable amounts of capital to research and implement whatever it wants to...it's no stretch at all to expect they could have a car division.


On Sep 29, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] wrote:

Apple cannot start its own car company as it doesnt know anything about cars.


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