Re: [iPad] Why iOS 7's design is bold but flawed | Macworld

 

I doubt there will be an option in iOS7 to "unlive" live icons

From: David Smith <david.smith.14916@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Why iOS 7's design is bold but flawed | Macworld
 

Please, no.  I like my screens to sit still.  Action only when I ask for it, please.
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On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Alice <whiterabbit32@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Thanks :-) widgets are large and take up too much screen real estate for my taste. Live icons are nice.
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On Jul 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Tony <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
 
Charles said this
 
Live icons that are live tend to support action animation and icon changes (i.e. a clock that moves, a weather icon that shows some rain or sun, a calendar icon with changing data, a picture frame, a "this song is playing now", etc). iOS 7 icons may support this at east the Apple clock does BUT it is a fixed size - 1 icon 1 x 1 row and just because Apple did it with their clock does mean they provided a rich flexible API for anyone to do any kind of display. iOS 6 and below supports none of this.
Widgets 1) allow interactions, i.e. Toggles, sliders, UI elements, so you can touch them and manipulate their appearance, or device settings or apps in addition to the above. 2) Many widgets can change multiple settings at once i.e. press a battery saver and it could dim the scree, turn bluetooth, wifi, gps, hot-spot off 4 settings in 1 swipe and toggle them back on in 1 swipe. 3) They can also vary in size from Icon size to multiple icon size to full screen (minus the docking bar). Android has supported this since 1.x!  In addition Widgets can do e4) everything live icons can do. 5) They also can support timed changes (like a picture frame that changes images every on seconds). 6) And the items in a widget can do task (a + could add an appointment, a specific appointment could be interacted with (postponed, marked as done, deleted) by clicking on 1 appointment could be a shortcut to the app's appointment screen. It can exit apps, or end phone calls,
Androids notification bar is more powerful than iOS as well because it has lots of Widget style capabilities iOS 6 and below does not have.

iOS 7 Control Center is a set of Widgets that Apple created that seem nice BUT they are not true widgets like above because they cannot co-exist on home screen with regular icons. It is basically a full screen app with 2 bonuses:
1) change a lot of settings without opening multiple apps or setting
2) access certain apps (flashlight which is handy) or settings even when phone is locked (this is nice for volume I hate having to swipe unlock my Android phone just to adjust volume)
It is also not clear that 3rd parties can make a Control Center style app maybe only Apple can make.

From: Alice <whiterabbit32@gmail.com>
To: "iPad@yahoogroups..com" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Why iOS 7's design is bold but flawed | Macworld
 
So what's the difference between a widget and a live icon? 
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On Jul 19, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Kris Murray <krismurray@gmail.com> wrote:
 
I don't want them. But live icons may be neat
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On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Tony <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
 
I thought most here did not want widgets? I guess what you describe is technically a widget but its more of a live icon.

From: "whiterabbit32@gmail.com" <whiterabbit32@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Why iOS 7's design is bold but flawed | Macworld
 
If I remember correctly, during the WWDC Keynote, you could see the red 2nd hand on the clock icon moving. That indicates to me that the clock icon is a widget. Hope there's more.  \
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On Jul 18, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Tony <tdale@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
 
Are we getting widgets in iOS7?

From: David H. Bailey <dhbailey52@comcast.net>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Why iOS 7's design is bold but flawed | Macworld
 
I know that about the apps as they are in iOS6 -- what I'm hoping is that the same will be able to be done with the widgets that it seems we'll be getting in iOS7. That's my only concern. That and being able to stop them if they're some nonsense thing like a stock-ticker that comes turned on and running by default. David On 7/18/2013 1:41 PM, Alice wrote: > > > You put whatever apps you don't want to see in a folder and park it on > the last page farthest from the pages you do use. I never see Th > newsstand app because I've done that. > > \ > \ /\ Alice > ( ) mailto:whiterabbit32%40gmail.com <mailto:mailto:whiterabbit32%40gmail.com> > .( ). Sent from my iPad mini > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:44 AM, "David H. Bailey" <mailto:dhbailey52%40comcast.net > <mailto:mailto:dhbailey52%40comcast.net>> wrote: > >> As long as they can be hidden or removed by the user, I don't have a >> problem with them being included.. >> >> But as with some of the Apple apps currently which can't be uninstalled, >> I hope that at least we can hide them in some "Unused Apps" folder and >> never have to face them if we don't want to. >> >> David H. Bailey >> >> On 7/18/2013 7:27 AM, Tony wrote: >> > >> > >> > Many want widgets, I don't , but if they existed you can use them, >> > or not. That's how it should be. None of us use iOS identically >> > Just my opinion >> > >> > *From:* David H. Bailey <mailto:dhbailey52%40comcast.net >> <mailto:dhbailey52%40comcast..net>> >> > *To:* mailto:iPad%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:iPad%40yahoogroups.com> >> > *Sent:* Thursday, 18 July 2013 10:04 PM >> > *Subject:* Re: [iPad] Why iOS 7's design is bold but flawed | Macworld >> > On 7/17/2013 5:42 PM, Tony wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > Exactly. Whats wrong with 2 or 3 default widgety homecreens? Swipe >> right >> > > foe the app screens or up and down for the other widget ones, >> that's new >> > [snip] >> > >> > What's wrong with that scenario? Plenty, if I don't find the widgets to >> > be useful. >> > >> > I want to keep my most commonly used apps on the first homescreen, and I >> > want to be able to rearrange that first screen (and any/all others) as I >> > feel will work best for me, not what some person in Cupertino thinks is >> > best. >> > >> > I sure hope that every screen is user configurable like they all >> > currently are in iOS6 (and earlier).. >> > >> > -- >> > David H. Bailey >> > mailto:dhbailey%40davidbaileymusicstudio.com >> <http://40davidbaileymusicstudio.com/> >> > http://www..davidbaileymusicstudio.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> David H. Bailey >> mailto:dhbailey%40davidbaileymusicstudio.com >> <mailto:dhbailey%40davidbaileymusicstudio.com> >> http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com/ >> > > > -- David H. Baileymailto:dhbailey%40davidbaileymusicstudio.comhttp://www.davidbaileymusicstudio..com/
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