Calling a user a PROBLEM is rude. Granted it might imply idiocy, but does not directly say it, but calling anyone problem for merely raising some legit complaints about AppleTV is rude. Is their a nice interpretation of calling me a problem? My config which is pretty standard a problem? Apple TV obtuse setup, lousy remote and apps are the problem not me. I will make the most of it because it cost me $100. But the fact that I am this disappointed is so the opposite of my iPad, MacBook, iTouch and iTunes experiences which were loveable and superb mostly!
As for saying I do not understanding English that is equally rude on your part. My mastery of English I better than most, but of course no one is perfect. Being called a problem user no matter what the context. Calling me a problem rather than just assuming AppleTV needs refinement if my common scenarios are not accommodated is rude. unlike my iPad where I want common and uncommon thnigs my AppleTV usage for me and Mom are very common usages no corner cases or edge cases.
Assuming that any Apple TV setup problems are my fault not Apples, is how Microsoft functions typically not how the best Apple products were made. The best were made by people making Apple products work really well with all kinds of users and most common use cases. I do not think my setup or my approach is the problem and my upse ,case very common. I had some standard conditions, read the manual and tried reasonable things. I also think the apps Netflix, YouTube, WSJ, iPad remote suck and not in a good way. My blue ray players Coe with lousy Netflix apps and other apps I expect great apps with great UIs from Apple not apps MS engineers would be ashamed to ship.
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012, Christopher Collins wrote:
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012, Christopher Collins wrote:
He did not call you an "idiot". He called you a "problem".
There is a HUGE difference between the two.You appear to have a problem understanding the english language as well. At least, that is what I read in the messages.cjcPS I have found that the more technical a person is, the harder they find Apple products to setup & integrate, but that might be just me!On 06/06/2012, at 7:35 AM, Charles Carroll wrote:On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
>> Show me "idiot" in my post.Believe me, *I* know what I said.
>> NOT calling you an idiot, then, I guess makes me NOT rude.
>> But bringing up idiocy in your reply, well, ....
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>> Maybe it is not the product that is the problem, but the user.
>> It took me (age 67) a few minutes to set up.
So when you said 'the product that is the problem, but the user.' you did not mean that? You said either the PRODUCT or the USER is the problem. Since you setup the product quickly that means the other possibility the USER is the problem.Just admit you called the USER the problem and defended a lame setup that works well for some users and works horribly for many including veteran users of several OSes. I don't mind being insulted by careless use of language but denying you insulted me because you misused the English language I am not fine with. I am the user and if AppleTV is fine according to your sentence structure the User i.e. me is the problem.
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