Friends Kingdom: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone

Tesla is already in production. It has already turned a profit and sold 18,000 cars last year. All their cars are pre sold and there is a waiting list.
Pete

On Sep 29, 2014, at 8:18 PM, "Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I dont know much about Tesla.. Are they within ballpark of a gas powered car?
Electric Hybrids are already common
They race Formula One all electric

The last time I took any interest in electric cars, they cost a low more to buy, they cost to charge, they used far more of a carbon footprint, when the batteries were done woth that cost a mint to replace.

Its a great thing, but its not yet here. When it is, all cars will be electric

From: "Pete petefromflorida@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
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Tesla is a game changer and instead of Steve Jobs we now have Elon Musk.
Pete

On Sep 29, 2014, at 5:12 PM, "Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The Law of Diminishing Returns

Take a 1965 sedan car. Lots of innovation is possible.

Take a 2015 sedan car, what can you innovate? Its all there, been done. Somethings will turn up, but when a product is mature, what can you innovate?

Give me some examples of innovation that Apple can do. Do not include improving past innovations.

Yes, Jim S may often defend Apple, but I feel your downgrading of Apple has no basis. Your expecting completely new ideas regularly, that cannot happen to a mature product, no matter who makes it

From: "Pabitra Saha pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:59 AM
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I do not understand if Apple has been able to or will be able to maintain the innovator status in the years to come but Jim will be always defending Apple.

Best
PKS

On 29 Sep 2014, at 18:48, "david smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I agree with you but then the company will go down.
We should stop expecting great new innovative bug free products from them
PKS

There is no one preventing *you* from having low expectations.
It is an excellent plan for getting pleasantly surprised when good products continue to be produced._._,_.___

Apple has a turbulent history.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.#History

But for the fifteen or so years up to Jobs' death, it was an extremely bright history. Jobs enjoyed celebrity status as a kind of white knight riding above and ahead of the herd, as the charismatic and creative head of a fabulously successful technological army. And it wasn't all hype. Some lovely products came out of Cupertino in those days. But when Jobs died, the banner of the Apple army was torn. The army, on its own, under a new leader, began to lose little battles and failed to win any big ones. It began to look as though the magic had been in the leader more than in the army.

What this means for Apple's future, I have no idea. But I don't see a coherent growth plan. What, exactly, are they up to? It looks as though they want to become a major player in entertainment, but at the same time remain a consumer-electronics company.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.#2013.E2.80.93present:_Acquisitions_and_expansion

I wish they'd stayed focused on personal electronics. I don't like the Beats acquisition. I can identify with a company that keeps trying to push the edge of the envelope with cool tools, but not with an entertainment conglomerate. Sony is a company that wandered into the entertainment swamp and got lost. I hope Apple isn't following in their footsteps.