My disappointment isn't with the battery. The disappointment is with lack of support from Verizon and HTC. Just a bunch of finger pointing. You won't see that with an iPhone.
Samsung's advertising makes no sense to me. "Are you one of these people that would stand in a line for a phone? Don't be. Buy our phone." (Their advertising really loses me at making those people out to be stupid. Maybe its because I've stood in the Apple Store line closest to Stanford University.)
Ted
From: Charles Carroll <911@learnasp.com>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [iPad] OT: Windows 8
Yeah
http://reviews.cnet.com/htc-thunderbolt-review/
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thunderbolt-review-after-three-months-of-daily-use-20110610/
Its super speed network => hits its batteries hard <= I can see why that would be extremely dissatisfying if one wanted reasonable battery life. And since I don't think the HTC supports larger/doubled batteries like can be obtained for iPhones like
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371912,00.asp
that makes the situation even more dire.
My only personal Android experience is with MyTouch 1.0 and HTC sensation and I am happy with their battery life the way I used them, but can see how many would not be who don't keep theirs plugged in as much as I do.
The iPhone 4s User I know who uses a double battery case still gripes about her battery life as do other iPhone users I know, but smart phones are battery drainers. I think the iPhones are better than many Androids, but depends on the model and clever users can use 'Battery saver Apps/Widgets' and cut its usage back to very little when idle (who needs their GPS on when not navigating? Their bluetooth on when not using their headset? Their Wifi on when not accessing networks just relying on cell towers?)
http://reviews.cnet.com/htc-thunderbolt-review/
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thunderbolt-review-after-three-months-of-daily-use-20110610/
Its super speed network => hits its batteries hard <= I can see why that would be extremely dissatisfying if one wanted reasonable battery life. And since I don't think the HTC supports larger/doubled batteries like can be obtained for iPhones like
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371912,00.asp
that makes the situation even more dire.
My only personal Android experience is with MyTouch 1.0 and HTC sensation and I am happy with their battery life the way I used them, but can see how many would not be who don't keep theirs plugged in as much as I do.
The iPhone 4s User I know who uses a double battery case still gripes about her battery life as do other iPhone users I know, but smart phones are battery drainers. I think the iPhones are better than many Androids, but depends on the model and clever users can use 'Battery saver Apps/Widgets' and cut its usage back to very little when idle (who needs their GPS on when not navigating? Their bluetooth on when not using their headset? Their Wifi on when not accessing networks just relying on cell towers?)
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Ted Wagner <tfwagner2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
I probably would get another Android phone, but the HTC Thunderbolt was such a disappointment that I'll never make that mistake again.I'm going to like having a phone that I can go to the Apple Store for, when Verizon doesn't know what the issue is. We don't have any of Samsung and HTC stores around here.
Ted <in line for an iPhone 5>
I just got a new phone and thought about an iPhone but decided no for several reasons.
Bluetooth streaming to my car works really well, I can listen to my music or talk on my phone-that might work in ios too but am not sure.
Not having Swype keyboard is a real deal breaker. It is so much faster and very easy. I can Swype with one hand almost as fast as I can talk. I am a good typist and can type pretty fast too but not nearly as fast as with Swype.
In the email interface, on my Android phone when I open it, it checks all my folders to see if there are new emails (doesn't download them till you open the folder, just updates the number of new emails and puts the number next to the folder name). With my iPad I have to open each folder to see if there are new emails as the number is not updated.
Yes, in ios the files are organized, but if you want to delete the app, the files go away too, then if you change your mind you can't get them back.
On the other hand, I love the retina screen on my iPad 3, pictures look great. I use it all the time. It took me a while to get used to it and I still visas the lack of menus in many apps, but I am learning with you guys' help.
JulieOn Nov 2, 2012 3:22 AM, "Charles Carroll" <911@learnasp.com> wrote:Safari has awesome "Reader" feature - try it sometime basically it formats the webpage for gorgeous easy reading often much better looking than the original page and larger more readable font. It also has "Speak this page" feature I love.
Now when I use Chrome or FireFox I really miss those features. Yes you can't 'miss' what you never had, so Chrome and FireFox users never think they need such a thing. Each person I show this loves the reader feature and uses it, and is bummed when it does not exist elsewhere. The fact that Chrome and FireFox have not stole it YET is their loss.
Swyping keyboards are amazing too saves me a TON of time and can let me enter very fast - of course if you never Swyped you can't miss it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTooBnKAdSw&feature=fvwrel
I provided some screen shots and real world examples so people would see exactly what values widgets can offer. If I am listening to Sirrius/Pandora and want to know song name or change channels without holding down home. locating and touching app, these can provide super short path from main screen.
Of course the better engineers at Apple, MS, Google try these things and realize that since certain users love them migration becomes unacceptable once spoiled by them. To a certain extent what makes a company never lose its lead or market share is how quick they 'borg' the truly great features for example when Quattro introduced right click mouse inspection in their BETAS MS Office stole it and shipped an Office that used that before Quattro got out of Beta which is why right click is all over Windows now and Excel continued to decimate Quattro.
Coke ignored the larger Pepsi bottles in 30's, rather than just releasing a bigger coke bottle and killing Pepsi on spot (read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi the section called 'Rise') and it paved the way for a 2 horse race in long term. Android has gotten HUGE market share by having some competitive edges that iOS still has not entirely 'borged' which if they did could get Apple 99% to Androids 1% market share instead of the 2 horse race this has become ( http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/08/technology/smartphone-market-share/index.html ) because of slowness of Apple to borg some of the better stuff, and not addressing the 'many carrier' option (in a similar way they did in PC market and gave Windows a entree in).
I say this because my Android friends who think about an iOS switch who truly use their Android very well think about switching but when they see they will have to give up some of their favorite features they don't want to switch. And they are often the people who on a family account advise their family what to buy, and advise their friends too.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:> Its just sheer stubbornness that iOS does not have them - the 'dead' clock icon in iOS6 proves how bizarre not having such things is.That so many of us have never noted the absence of such "features" proves how irrelevant they are to most people.
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