Friends Kingdom: Re: [iPad] Customer Letter

Yes, I agree its easy to get along with the Govt when the population is 4.4 million. And where the leader and his cohorts are very accessible.

Re Independence, this excerpt is interesting as it mentions both our countries

The principles behind the independence of New Zealand began before New Zealand even became a British colony in 1840. There had been minor rebellions in Canada in the 1830s, and in order to avoid making the mistakes which had led to the American revolution, Lord Durham was commissioned to make a report on the government of colonies which contained a substantial British population. The principles of self government within the Empire were laid down in the Durham Report and first put into operation in Nova Scotia in 1848. Canada, New Zealand, and the Australian colonies very soon followed suit. The British Parliament passed the New Zealand Constitution Act 1852 to grant the colony's settlers the right to self-governance, only 12 years (in 1853) after the founding of the colony. New Zealand was therefore to all intents and purposes independent in domestic matters from its earliest days as a British colony.

Back to me. Over time, while we are a member of the Commonwealth, and the Queen does sign some tuff, its all only tradition now. The Queen raitifies our laws by custom, she has no say.

From: "David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Customer Letter - Apple

There's much more distrust of government in the US, I imagine, than in NZ, Tony. We're three hundred thirty million people, many more than NZ, and we fought a war against a tyranny for our independence, whereas, as I understand, NZ independence just sort of evolved gently over time. Also, as a relatively small country, you're probably very much like a big family. It's been two hundred years since that could be said of America.

On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I see, that does sort of make sense, as to the almost 100% agreement to keep the Govt away. Govts tend to have a negative face to the public, ironic as the public elected them, and often for 2 or more terms. There is a high lack of trust by Americans on the Govt, more than elsewhere? (

(Thats a genuine question, not an argumentative comment)

From: "David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Customer Letter - Apple

I have no idea whether there's a consensus. I kind of hope not.

There are several issues for me, mostly centered on the question of the proper role and reach of government.

The specific issue here, though, is also a highly technical one. My sense is that on this, the consensus in the informed tech community is that what the government wants is bad, pure and simple.

On Feb 18, 2016, at 4:05 AM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The consensus is to ignore the issue of exposing a terrorist plot?

From: "David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 18 February 2016 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Customer Letter - Apple

On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:20 AM, Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I like the way you think :)

~KLM
\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists" ~Nikola Tesla //

On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Jim Saklad jimdoc@icloud.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> I hope Apple prevails because I believe that too much of our privacy has already been eroded.
> Pat

I just had a mental flash of a courtroom scene:

Apple's legal team asks, "How many people in this courtroom have iPhones? How many of you are in favor of having a back-door built into your iPhone that any decent hacker could access?"

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Yes, but, unfortunately, that one's easy for them to rebut: "We're the good guys." That will convince the crowd.

The crowd need to be educated. It won't be easy, because "common sense" says this is Apple's patriotic duty. Time for some good advertising - spots and print ads explaining intelligently but simply why it's a very bad idea.

Who might do that? Not universities, because they're on the government's payroll. Gutsy as this act was, I doubt Apple - a public company - could do it alone.