Friends Kingdom: Re: [iPad] Apple to wind back the clock to '09 with focus on quality, not features, in next OS X

Re: [iPad] Apple to wind back the clock to '09 with focus on quality, not features, in next OS X | Computerworld

I'm sure some of what you say is a part of it, i just notice much more noise, and a lot of it is specific. When this noise turns to
wanting fixes not features, thats quite a change. I've heard this comments for months actually

Windows and OSX are quite different, but its not a setup thing its once its setup.

Its not an issue with the non Apple routers, they are fully compliant. Naturally if u get a cheapie it might not be great
Not everything non Apple is cheap. The top router out there isnt Apple, its maybe 4 or 5 ina top tir top 10.
Apple routers are fine with non Apple devices, its that Apple devices aren't always fine with
non Apple routers.

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On Tue, 26/5/15, Christopher Collins iphone@analogdigital.com.au [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [iPad] Apple to wind back the clock to '09 with focus on quality, not features, in next OS X | Computerworld
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 26 May, 2015, 1:12 PM

Ah, but is it actually far more common these
days?
Or is it just that
with a larger number of users/purchasers these days, the
noisy users who may have issues are more
numerous?

Its more since Mavericks onwards

And many of
the so called issues that I read about are not issues per se
but either configuration errors or misunderstandings about
how OS X/iOS work.
As
in "This is how it works on Windows, why isn't OS X
doing that too?"
Remembering also that while many
early users of OS X would have had all Apple equipment, not
the Apple hardware has to work with many more brands of
equipment, most of which is all made to a
price.
Just my 2c for
everyone to think about.
cjc On
26 May 2015, at 10:58 am, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz
[iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
I hear you. But:

I have no issue with issues,
bugs, all software has them to one degree or another. We
dont come across these issues every third minute
(hopefully!!) but from time to time we might.

My point is that Apple appears
to be having an increasing number of them. Affected me much?
No. And when we read posts of issues, yes that is noise,
squeaky wheel syndrome. But, from my anecdotal evidence its
more and more. I just feel that issues with Apple gear is
becoming more widespread and common. When I read posts, and
someone menrions an issue, so what, who cares, always
happens, so i ignore it, but its far more common these days.
There was a topic on what people wanted for Yosemite, and by
golly, the majority wanted fixes, as per your article.
Detauls galore of bugs.

Its
not the bugs or issues, its the frequency of them thats
grown.

Wifi. The article
inferred that too many bugs are caused by too many new
features, thats why I mentioned wifi, as wifi is not new,
but its rampant with issues for Apple users. Apple has never
fully complied with the Wifi Alliance, and I read yesterday
this morning that "Apple devices aren't certified
any more" I will check that, all I know is that they
are not 100% compliant with wifi standards set by the Wifi
Alliance. So issues happen. I had zero issues with mt
TPL:ink modem/router, the Huawei 630b fibre modem doesnt
play well with Apple, thats a known issue, the Huawei 659b
Gbit router is fine I think. I have seen my rMBP time to be
connected grow from the 12 second startup to adding another
10 seconds, or more, all with zero hardware changes. Just
Yosemite's updates. This is wifi, its ubiquitous, it has
standards, but issues continue

I can see why many want no new features but its
a bit sad when some want stuff fixed ahead of new, cool,
useful features. I want aware this happened with Snow
Leopard, now I understand why I've often read, lets go
back to Snow Leopard. Given Apple size, the narrownesss of
its OS, and component types used in the hardware, bug
rectifying would be a lot simpler than in Windows
environment.

I know many of
you will see this as grumbling, but its not. Apples users
are probably a lot more prepared to put up with issues as is
the loyalty, but its biting many

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On Tue, 26/5/15, Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]
<iPad@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [iPad]
Apple to wind back the clock to '09 with focus on
quality, not features, in next OS X | Computerworld
To: "iPad@yahoogroups.com"
<iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, 26 May, 2015, 12:36 PM

Wish I could.
You asserted sometime to the
effect that
wifi is not new therefore there should be no
issue with it and that something like that and
I can't
find the comments as the well
look below you'll see
it's all css
code instead of quoted
text.
It's not
like simply
putting new wheels on a car. An operating system
is millions of millions of lines of code. We
have point
releases because if this. Errors
happen.
You will never get a new
operating
system without a single bug in it.
Not gonna happen.
Therefore. Expect mistakes
to happen and be less
disappointed when the
inevitable mistake does occur.
That's
how I roll.

~KLM\\
"Antisocial
behavior is a trait of intelligence in a
world full of conformists" ~Nikola
Tesla
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On May 25,
2015, at 3:28 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz
[iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Can you clarify?

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On Tue, 26/5/15, Kris
Murray krismurray@gmail.com
[iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [iPad] Apple to
wind back the clock to '09
with focus on
quality, not features, in next OS X |
Computerworld

To: "iPad@yahoogroups.com"
<iPad@yahoogroups.com>

Received: Tuesday, 26 May,
2015, 10:20 AM

Comments no. Assertions. Yes.

~KLM\\

"Antisocial behavior is a trait of
intelligence in
a

world full of conformists" ~Nikola
Tesla

//

On May 25,

2015, at 1:30 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz

[iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

Or are my
comments unfair, unreasonable and

untrue?

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