~Kris M.
On Oct 25, 2014, at 4:11 PM, david smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Thanks for the distinction. Yes, I meant quick. The internet is still a work in progress. Too many slow hops.Sure, satisfaction's relative. All along the way, from 1980 onwards, we've been happy with what today would be thot terrible thruput. Today, I want but can't yet get intranet quick (ping) all the time.You're wise to be patient.You mean quick not fast. Right? Fast is how long it takes a ten gig file to finish and quick is the ping or how quick it takes a couple bytes of HTML to display? You can have a 50/50meg service with crappy ping and it'll seem slow but the ten gig file will finish in no time. I think that I'mUsing the correct terminology.I've seen that. Slow to get into first gear but awesome top end.I prefer a balance of both. But I'm happy with most anything really. After over a year on 40 down and 10 up with quick ping I have spent a long time recently where 5 down is unheard of and its split between 10+ users. It's caused me to really be patient. They say good things come to people who are patient. I'm waiting. Patiently.
~Kris M.\\ "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //
On Oct 24, 2014, at 6:42 PM, david smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:I don't quite agree. Fast is a .25-second screen refresh. Fast enough is the local response one gets on a prudently loaded and well-tuned home computer. When you have to wait three or four seconds for a screen refresh, that's slow. No justifications permitted - it's just slow.For downloading 10GB files, I agree that fast is relative.Fast is subjective. To some 40mph is fast to others 100mph is slow.
~Kris M.\\ "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //
On Oct 23, 2014, at 6:01 PM, david smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Anything can be wonderful in theory. Dreamers are great to have in the mix, but they often stumble in the real-world obstacle course of the possible.I expect to die waiting for Internet service that is consistently fast. I get 50 Gbps now, sometimes, but it's inconsistent, and I have to change the modem channel or reboot the modem or the router every now and then. The real road is strewn with potholes. Things will improve, but slowly. In the meantime, we have to beware of a natural willingness to accept potholes as normal. That's one reason I like Apple: They hold themselves to higher performance standards than much of the rest of the crowd.Well in the end it was the power companies that had to string power to every house. But it's now essential just like it once was a luxury. That said its a luxury for me that I get past by going to the library where it's free. I think that the consortium thinks that they can make it cheaper and bring it to everyone whereas the monopoly hasn't been doing that. In my old house we had city run internet. It was slower than Comcast but it did goto every house but the prices were the same. Meh. But it's stillAn interesting idea.
~Kris M.\\ "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //
On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:44 PM, David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:"The leaders whose communities participate in Next Century Cities know that reliable, affordable, and fast Internet is no longer a luxury. Like electricity and plumbing, it is now essential infrastructure."Nope. It's still a luxury.In the end it's the ISPs who will have to string fiber to every single pole. Not sexy, but unavoidable. And it will continue to be overpriced and spotty.Why Next Century Cities? — Next Century Cities Gigabit. Yea it's needed. Hopefully this won't get sued out of existence by the monopolies in place
http://nextcenturycities.org/2014/10/11/why-next-century-cities/Why Next Century Cities?
City leaders want to expand opportunity within their communities. They want to strengthen citizen engagement, enhance academic achievement, and increase the efficient use of resources. Leaders hope to improve the efficacy of and outcomes associated with health care, encourage the growth of small businesses, and ensure public safety.
In the past, solutions within these areas of growth lacked a common denominator. Now, however, as we have seen in city after city, truly high-speed broadband can impact all facets of a citizen's quality of life. Innovative city leaders from all over the country are beginning to work toward improving their cities by seeking reliable, affordable, and fast Internet.
This is not a simple equation for cities. The caliber of Internet networks required for cities to compete, grow, and thrive in the 21st century will largely not be achieved through the copper wire networks of the 20th century. Cities and their leaders recognize that the present and the future will be based on fiber-optic, gigabit networks that can deliver speeds at hundreds of times the current national average.
Out of these concerns, Next Century Cities emerged. In 2013, a group of innovative leaders joined in a series of conversations about their need for and their efforts to obtain next generation broadband. As we heard from cities all over the country, we realized the stories had common themes.
The first was the depth of the challenge. Getting from 20th century networks to 21st century, next-generation networks is a daunting task for many communities. Building new infrastructure – no matter how essential – is time-consuming, expensive, and requires input and participation from many different stakeholders.
There are also outside factors that impact the ability for cities to succeed. Towns and communities struggle with limited budgets, laws that restrict their opportunity to build/support a network that fits their needs, and even market pressures.
But the second theme was one of optimism, because so many have persevered.
Dozens of cities across the country have succeeded (or are on the path to success). Some of these cities have municipally-owned networks providing Internet to businesses, hospitals, schools, and even homes. Others are working with private companies to meet their needs.
And a growing number of cities have yet to achieve their goals, but they are beginning to put next-generation broadband at the top of the list of community priorities, rather than burying it at the bottom.
When asked what resources or opportunities would contribute to their success, there was consensus that leaders needed to share their learning, to find ways to connect with like-minded leaders, and to stand together as a team in seeking solutions.
They wanted to bring the national conversation around high-speed Internet back to where it belongs: focused on the needs of the people who live and work in their cities.
The leaders whose communities participate in Next Century Cities know that reliable, affordable, and fast Internet is no longer a luxury. Like electricity and plumbing, it is now essential infrastructure.
To support these cities, Next Century Cities will serve as a dedicated point of collaboration. Our organization will provide a forum for cities to communicate and share knowledge, arm cities with tools to help them succeed, and offer a platform for city leaders to participate in – and drive – the national conversation.
We are at a crossroads. Too few communities have the Internet infrastructure to deliver on the promise of America. Too few commentators and policymakers recognize that truly next-generation Internet is indispensable in the 21st century.
Next Century Cities wants to work with every town and city that recognizes that next-generation broadband is a necessary part of the future. If you are a city equipped with gigabit infrastructure, join us. If you want this infrastructure but face difficulty in attaining it, join us. If you want to be part of a movement of cities and leaders who believe that next-generation Internet infrastructure will be a decisive factor for America's cities in the decades to come, join us.
Together, we can help every city become a next century city.
~Kris M.\\ "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //
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