Yup caps. That's only 50 files at 5gb each before the bandwidth nazis get mad and rattle their sticks at you.
~KLM
\\ "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //
Thats probably a consequence of today, and HD, and high broadband caps. If I download a file, say if i missed recording F1 or MotoGP, I download the largest, might be 5Gb to 7GB
From: "Just Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: "iPad@yahoogroups.com" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone
I see that mkv on certain sites is mostly used for huge massive files usually high definition or uncompressed. But if I remember correctly mp4 does this too. I can barely compress my movies or severely.~KLM\\ "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //And to be honest, in all my years of computing, and playing around with video , I;ve never come across a high battery or high CPU format. They all have their format of iFrames and A frames and B Frames, and variations. The processing is carried out by software which semns instructions to the hardware, i.e. the graphic accelerators. Not a lot has chnaged over tbe years, its just better. If there was a format that was high CPU, it will have died before it left the coders office. Some formats are better for quality/file size, the days of Divx were excellent at that. 4.7Gb video to 700Mb and great quality. IMHO, iOS falls way short of video playback, it sucks big time, in support and function. If you download from iTunes, well then its great, it just works. My conclusion of iOS, is that it was ONLY for selling Apples stuff, and they made it klunky for dealing with non Apple PURCHASES. Thats the only valid reason I can see. TC will change that as people will byuy from Apple but the vast majority will buy elsewhere too. So get both markets. The bigger screen iPhone was a lost market which now came back, same deal.From: "Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: "iPad@yahoogroups.com" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone
I dont agree with your sushi analogy, but good try!! What I hear, is a lot of support for Apple by Apple users, cos its Apple. Its hard to decipher the fan bias from the facts..MKV doesnt make large files, its a container. Its the best container as it has the best support for subs, chapters etc.Various formats are more suited to smaller files, but its much more then MP4, to me its an Apple control thing, to try to force a standard or commonly used format. MP4 is not great for motion as its frame limired, like AVCHD from memory . H.264 is better, but again, you need to use certain fixed resolution for an iOS deviceVLC does play all the formats yes, but software acceleration, well thats great for killing the battery. So you need a latest and greatest iPad to play VLC non Apple supported files, which is most. I cannot see any references to MP4 online as far as quality goes, apart that it is low bandwidth so ideal for online video, as is FLV (Flash) , FLV being a bit better, both being very similarFrom: "Just Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: "iPad@yahoogroups.com" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone
Mkv. That's an interesting beast. I know die hards love but it usually makes large files in my expletive and those are not exactly mobile. I think uncompressed mo4s do just fine. But my eyes suck. And my ears. Hey maybe I'm the target audience. Lol kidding aside. I haven't checked but doesn't vlc play those? I don't know as when I have borrowed those I'm usually quick to convert them to my preferred format which is mp4But again I think why apple is bullish about mp4 is that it's geared to be really good and I bet they think other formats would drain the battery or in other ways provide for a crappy experience and they maybe bet that users would be quick to blame appleI think a good analogy would be this. Walking into your favorite sushi place and asking fir a cheeseburger. They say no. But you say all the popular places serve them. They say no we only do sushi and we do it the best in then to which you both agree.Cheers~KLM\\ "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //Yes ok. I see, got it.................Pity that Apple dont allow mkv, that is the best containerDont follow your reply though. The hoops I mentioned only apply if you use iOS. Not Windows, not Mac, not Linux, not Android and again, not OSX. Just iOS.. Limited, restricted unlike its older partner OS. Strange. You'd expect OSX and iOS to support the same formats and containers and not suppport the same formats and containers. MP4 is not good at motion, like AVCHD, buit its supported. Just seems to me its not a quality issue its a control issue, and thats fine if the quality is up there and if the world embraces it.. But that hasnt happened for video, and re screen sizes Apple had to cave on to what is actually real world desire. They should just support what the users wish to use, promote if need be, and make it a full easy experience. If you have multi devices, and like streaming, and video, you do not use Apple, thats it. Unless its just buying off iTunes. That example needs to be made easier, its only hardware acceleration support, as they do allow format support. Bizarre. Not consistent IMHOFrom: "Just Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone
Correct as per my first sentence. Outdated container. Very outdated...~KLM\\ "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //avi is a container, not a format. Thats why a converter that supports remuxxing can remux it as there is no need for conversion as its already compatible. but it wont play. So, do we assume the 2 formats that Apple supports of the many are the best, or is that bias? Whats the deal with mkv? Also a container not a format, most have H.264 formats, wont play. Its up to me what I play, and if I was Joe Average I dont know about being forced to convert, its very user unfriendly. Install VLC to make everything play, no you cannot. You end upo with users haveing issues all the time as nothing works. But on a mac, it works, I can install VLC. Just because its an Apple decision doesnt mnake it the best, or the most user friendly. (In this example its 0/10 for both. Cannot play H.264 mkv, even though H.264 is supported, and mkv is everywhere. Like screen sizes, the world has decidedFrom: "Just Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: "iPad@yahoogroups.com" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone
AVI is an outdated container. I get that it's popular but it doesn't mean that it's good. That said I thought my QuickTime played them. I'll hafta check in a few weeks when I get access to my mac. It's a crappy crappy 20+ year old format. You can google the limitations I can't recall them specifically. Does windows support mp4 or mov out of the box? Hrm? Maybe you thinkApple auld support the popular formats and apple thinks it should only support the best out of the box. Maybe that's it. As for mkv. Yea I dunno but I usually stay away from them.~KLM\\ "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //I didnt say it was open source, I said it was open. as in you can do what you likeI agree that I like iOS as I am glad for a trade off between freedom and protection.BUT I cannot play an avi video native? or mkv? Bizarre to say the least. I can waste my time getting a third party app, but it wont play using hardware accceleration. If I used another browser, (which I dont), I cannot make that defauilt, how silly is that. Allow another browser, then make it hard to use. All that will go before long, just as the hoops you need to jump through to attach a photo to an email. Its about ease of use and the iOS restrictions make some things a pain. Tim Cook is a good man he is disolving all that, adding ease of use, and holding onto securityFrom: "Just Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone
Windows isn't open source. Many *nix variants are but I don't think osx is certifiably *nix anymore.That said yea you can install software from anywhere..... But I'm not certain that will last forever. Not allowing access to certain parts of the os keeps the os stable. The iOS is a more finicky platform because of many things like the cell phone firmware battery issues etc so it's more important to maintain better control. I meN can you imagine a virus attacking the cell phone and toting all calls to a toll 900 number? Yuk.. Or can you imagine needing a/v software sucking battery and cycles on a cell phone? Yuk. It's a push pull. I like the apple iOS trade off.~KLM\\ "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //LOl, yeah ok!! What I mean is that unlike iOS, its an open desktop platform, as is Windows as is LinuxFrom: "Just Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone
Nah. Osx isn't like windows. Windows is a cheap osx knockoff. IMO. Ymmv.~KLM\\ "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it...... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //Todays Macintosh? OSX is like Windows, yes [covering ears], its like Windows. Its open, you can do pretty much what you like, play this, play that, install this, install that. iOS you cannot, Android or WP you can.From: "Just Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: "iPad@yahoogroups.com" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] Ordered new phone
They said that about Macintosh which has among the if not the best selling laptop currently.~KLM\\ "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller //highly restricted iOS. That has hurt the iPhone.
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