They already have. You can reboot to Windows or you can run it in a window, pun not intended.

They could licence OSX to other manufacturers also. Perhaps it would be better to not allow Windows to run on a Mac, then its fair.

From: "Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: iPad@yahoogroups..com
Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2015 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [iPad] iPad Pro Review: Why I Returned the New iPad

And they could merge Windows and iOS. Yea. They could. But they won't. Same here. Yea. It could be done. But it won't be. They'll borrow features like they said.

~KLM

\\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists" ~Nikola Tesla //

On Nov 27, 2015, at 12:20 AM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

They could make OSX touch capable. I guess you could have iOS on there as well, switch between them.

I feel that a tablet OS is better for a tablet. Its sparse, less busy, less packed, ideal for touch. If OSX and iOS had the same functionality, and
apps were full, you could use either, so Id use OSX on a Mac with mouse, or iOS on a tablet with touch. The UX is great on both, its just that
iOS is missing functionality.

TC says it can do anything a laptop can do. No. You don't have to find clunky workarounds to do stuff on a laptop. Technically you probably can
do everything if you found workarounds but who would. Its a truthful statement that is misleading.

Me, I'll just use my iPad for what it does well and is a pleasure to use.

From: "David Smith david.smith.14916@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: iPad@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 27 November 2015 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [iPad] iPad Pro Review: Why I Returned the New iPad

I'd like an OSX tablet. That seems a no-brainer. I imagine Apple are already working on that. iPad Air for reading - it's book sized and light - and OSX tablet for working. The only thing standing in the way of the latter is a willingness to break off the keyboard and make OSX work with touch and voice. But then, who will need iOS?

Really, all this is up in the air. Could be that current tablets are just a temporary thing - that something very different will catch on. After all, a tablet is basically just a laptop with the keyboard torn off.

I keep coming back to the Surface, which seems to have bypassed the two-OS problem.. But it's done it with Microsoft's unfortunate lack of style. If only Apple could see that light and fold iOS onto OSX, with Apple's design sense to make the result a pleasure to use.

On Nov 26, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Tony tdale@xtra.co.nz [iPad] <iPad@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

There are two threads on MR like this. Good reads

Summary

For some, the iOS restrictions made it just a bigger iPad
For some, their uses were tablet app uses, so they were happy
For some its too big, with the size and weight rather take an MBA and have a full computer

For all it was great, really great, but eihter iOS or the size had them running to the Mac or to the iPad Air

One said slightly smaller would have made it rock

From: "Kris Murray krismurray@gmail.com [iPad]" <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
To: iPad Yahoo Group <iPad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 27 November 2015 1:39 PM
Subject: [iPad] iPad Pro Review: Why I Returned the New iPad

iPad Pro Review: Why I Returned the New iPad

https://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/11/25/ipad-pro-review/

iPad Pro Review: Why I Returned the New iPad

The iPad Pro is a beautiful iPad with a name that practically promises productivity, but after a week trying to work the new iPad Pro into my workflow I'm returning it to the Apple Store.

There's no doubting the power that the iPad Pro brings to users. It could very well change the way you work and play but it isn't a fit for me.

At first I thought that all I needed to make the iPad Pro fit my work was a keyboard and the Apple Pencil. The split view mode allows me to work in two apps at once, which is essential to productivity. But even with a nice keyboard the limitations of the iPad Pro prevent it from becoming a permanent part of the work gear I use to manage a remote team and write 2,000 to 4,000 words a day.

Where does the iPad Pro fit in my workflow?

Keep in mind that my workflow and daily work may vary dramatically from yours. I spend many days working from a home office with two large monitors. On days where I work mobile I typically carry a notebook with a 12 to 13-inch display. Some days this is a MacBook Pro or a MacBook, other days it is the new Lenovo Yoga 900.

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The iPad Pro initially felt like a gadget that would allow me to carry a slightly thinner and lighter device with me and still stay productive, but it's not a good fit for my needs.

For other users the iPad Pro could be a perfect device, delivering the perfect place to sketch, draw and take notes in a package that is easier to carry around than a laptop and drawing accessories. Ultimately the usefulness of this very large tablet comes down to your needs and workflow — and there's no room for it in my bag.

Here's what I learned, why I'm returning the iPad Pro and why I want the iPad Air 3 more than ever.

Bottlenecks to Productivity

Using two apps side-by-side is great, but I rely on more apps than that.

There are too many bottlenecks to being productive with the iPad Pro in my workflow. Using two apps side by side with the Magic Keyboard does let me reference a webpage and write in another app, but I found myself spending too much time juggling between these two core apps and a messaging app like Slack or Hangouts.

If you only need to use two apps at a time for the bulk of your day, and both apps support the Split Screen mode in iOS 9, this might be perfect for you. Ultimately, even when focused on a task, I still need easier access to a third or fourth app.

Apps & Accessories

If I want to use the iPad Pro professionally I need great apps that work perfectly on the big screen and I need a keyboard that lets me type faster.

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There are too many apps that aren't optimized for the larger screen. It is early, but this isn't just a case of the iPad Pro blowing up an iPad Air app to fit the bigger screen. Apps that aren't updates use a blown up keyboard without the intelligent layout and shortcuts that iPad Pro optimized apps offer.

To combat this, and to make typing thousands of words a day easier, an iPad Pro keyboard is needed. After spending $1,000 on the iPad Pro I'm hesitant to spend another $100+ on a keyboard case that adds to the size and weight of the device, just so I can use it.

It's Too Big

For some users the huge 12.9-inch display is exactly what they need, but the iPad Pro is too big to be useful.

Although the iPad Pro is thinner and lighter than the MacBook that I routinely rely on for work, it isn't different enough to separate itself from the MacBook.

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A good iPad Pro keyboard case adds weight and size that compares to a traditional notebook.

When I look into adding a keyboard case that delivers the features I need, like the Logitech Create, the combination weighs in at 3.17 pounds — which is heavier than the MacBook or MacBook Air, and almost as heavy as the 13-inch MacBook Pro.

Big, Beautiful Screen

From an entertainment perspective the iPad Pro offers a large, beautiful screen and great sound, but the size is still a challenge.

Where does the iPad Pro fit into my entertainment needs.

When I am using the iPad to watch Netflix it's more of a commitment to carry it around and to find a place to set it than the iPad Air 2, and the extra screen size doesn't add enough to the entertainment experience.

Some games like Guitar Hero Live benefit from a bigger screen, but I did not find enough games that matter to me or that feel substantially different on the 12.9-inch display. If I could stream Xbox One games to the iPad Pro this would be a different story, but that's not possible.

Where's the iPad Air 3 with Apple Pencil Support?

Ultimately I find myself bumping into the limits of the iOS software more than any hardware limitations from the iPad Pro. The compromises and changes I need to make to my workflow to use the iPad Pro as a replacement for a laptop are too significant to overcome the beautiful screen, 10 hour battery life and improved sound.

After using the iPad Pro for a week I am left wanting an iPad Air 3 that supports the Apple Pencil.

Yes, I can use the iPad Pro to edit 4K video I shoot on the iPhone and it has more than enough power to run two apps side-by-side. There is a lot of potential for productivity, but in its current state the apps aren't quite ready and the accessories I need to make it useful push the weight and the price too high.

Even though I don't have a need to sketch and I take most of my notes with a keyboard. after reading an in depth Apple Pencil review, I really want an iPad Air 3 with a 9.7-inch display that supports 3D touch and the Apple Pencil instead of this massive tablet that comes with too many constraints for the price.

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~KLM

\ "Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists" ~Nikola Tesla //